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Where Will an ADN Put You on the Nursing Career Ladder?

Where Will an ADN Put You on the Nursing Career Ladder?

Monster Contributing Writer Lisette Hilton

January 30, 2008

Whether you have a diploma, an associate’s degree in nursing (ADN) or a bachelor’s degree in nursing (BSN), landing a nursing job these days usually isn’t a problem. Advancing in the profession, though, is another matter if you hold less than a BSN, according to experts.

But is the BSN always a necessity? Is an associate’s degree alone enough to open the door to a rewarding nursing career?

The bottom line is that choosing a nursing degree depends on the individual’s needs and goals, says Donita Qualey, RN, MN, president of the National Organization for Associate Degree Nursing and professor of nursing at Delgado Community College in New Orleans.


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“If the career goals are always to work at the bedside, then the associate’s degree is perfectly fine,” Qualey says. “But if you’re younger and want to teach or go higher in management, then you would go on for your advanced degree.”

Lower Nursing Degrees Under Scrutiny

Even though nurses’ most common initial preparation is an associate’s degree, nursing organizations are pushing for nurses to earn higher degrees.

The American Association of Colleges of Nursing (AACN) says having nurses prepared at the BSN level translates into better patient care. An AACN fact sheet cites studies and data showing lower mortality rates, fewer medication errors and more positive outcomes when nurses are prepared at the baccalaureate and graduate levels than at the associate’s and diploma levels.

State boards of nursing are behind the drive to eliminate lesser degrees in nursing as well. A proposal by the New York State Board of Nursing requiring all ADN nurses to get their BSNs within 10 years died in the legislature. But other states, such as New Jersey, are considering similar proposals, Qualey says.

Considerations for Second-Career Nurses

However, many who go into nursing as a second career don’t have the time or money to earn a four-year degree and are content staying at the bedside, says Sally Durand, RN, MSN, director of the associate-degree nursing program at Alvin Community College in Alvin, Texas.

Second-career nurse Laura Soria, RN, ADN, earned her associate’s degree in her early 40s. A nurse for the Brazoria County Health Department in Angleton, Texas, Soria says she is perfectly happy with her level of education and the job opportunities available to her. However, pressure from coworkers, including doctors and fellow nurses, makes her feel inadequate.

“I think a lot of people look down on the ones who just have the [ADN],” Soria says. “At my age…I love my job and changing my [credentials at the end of my name] would not help me in the job that I’m in. Basically, the only thing the BSN will get you is a managerial job. I don’t want to be the boss. I think it really matters what your goals are.”

Degree as a Stepping-Stone

For others, though, the associate’s degree is a first step on the road to advancing in nursing.

Stacy Vicknair, RN, ADN, a public health nurse for the Brazoria County Health Department, has no plans to return for her BSN but might take classes to further her career.

“These would be credentials that will go with my ADN,” she says. “I anticipate taking a forensics nursing class and classes that will further my career within the county.”

Regina Porter, RN, BSN, MSN, a nurse clinician III on the cardiac telemetry unit at The Johns Hopkins Hospital in Baltimore, is glad she went back to school after getting her ADN.

“By going back to school, you definitely get more insight, more experience in your clinical practice, more critical-thinking skills,” she says. “I think you have a different perspective on things.”

Patricia Miller, BSN, a staff nurse on the medicine/telemetry unit at The Johns Hopkins Hospital, says getting her BSN after the ADN helped her hone her leadership skills to take on bigger roles.

“Now I’m considering going to graduate school,” Miller says.

Advancement, Earning Power

Academic institutions such as Hopkins hire nurses prepared at the associate’s level, but reward nurses throughout their careers for completing more education.

At Hopkins, both two-year and four-year graduates new to the profession would start in the same job, doing the same kind of work, says Karen Haller, PhD, RN, the hospital’s vice president for nursing and patient-care services. However, to advance to the fourth and fifth of five nursing levels before going into management, Hopkins nurses must have a BSN, she says.

“For every jump on that ladder, there are increases in title and compensation,” she says. “So the baccalaureate has a brighter future in terms of earning power.”


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    msjacalyn

    3 days ago

    18 comments

    "Reaching" -who here would discourage you from continuing your education?? No Way, go for it. In the mean time your MA schooling may help you get a job at your local hospital (who usually will reimburse for furthering your ed). As for additional funding, there are many scholarship programs to sign up for through the school your attending for nursing. I recently found a book at my local library "The Big Blue Book for Grants, Scholarships, Fellowships and Loans" -great resource. As for RN / BSN?... I spoke with the Director of Nursing at my work ( who has her Masters) and she definately encouraged going all the way. I will be speaking with counselors at both my community college as well as the University to come to my final decision (considering time and expenses).
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    Livin2Care

    16 days ago

    8 comments

    From my experience working with the federal government for seven years in Washington D.C., I can truly testify to the fact that people who strive to go directly to management positions are those individuals who would have never been able to work competently in the "trenches" or at the bedside for that matter
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    CRNA2B

    21 days ago

    6 comments

    Debrafloreslvn74 -- forgive me, I think I'm readying these chronicologically backwards -- But NO, every community college I have talked to has LPN-RN bridge programs (ADN can take about 3 years with having to do prerequisites, deadlines to apply, etc.), but I don't imagine the bridge takes near 2 years, but I could be wrong. One problem you may come across, for example, I have been doing medical transcription and/or editing for 13 years, and none of my A&P, pharm, ect., science credits are transferrable because they are too old, so I have to take those again, and you would have to check out the community colleges; all schools are different. I bet you could test out of the A&P being an LPN. course my community college charges $100 to test out of A&P, and even when you pass, you still have to take A&P II, so you never know til you talk to a particular school.
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    CRNA2B

    21 days ago

    6 comments

    lbirdis918, after your ADN, with a Bachelor's in anything, you can go on for your BSN and some have BSN-MSN tracts even if your Bachelor's is in something else; they just will want some "extra" credits/classes from what I've found -- I'm only pre-nursing but plan on going on to ARNP or CRNA and have been checking every darn requirement out there at BSN and MSN level. I would sugges contacting a couple local universities (everybody I contacted has given me some kind of info to use or check out, advisors are really easy-going people) and see what they offer. A lot of colleges I'm finding even have online BSN programs (you do your clinicals at your job) and that is probably something you could do to do the nursing part of the BSN, but like I said there are ADN-MSN tracks you could probably do with all your general education (I know some MSN programs want science credits within 7 years, though) -- they'll tell you what classes you need to make it a BSN or MSN. I checked Florida Hospital's RN-BSN, for example, and they are accredited by NLNAC -- I couldn't believe it when I talked to them, and I talked to AANA in case I took an online BSN, would CRNA schools accept that and they do!! So basically you can do anything you set your mind to, and nowadays, you can do half of it from home!! Which is awesome if, like me, you have to work and/or raise kids at the same time!! Good luck with whatever you do!
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    Reaching4myStar

    about 1 month ago

    4 comments

    Hello to All. These articles and comments have good insight. I am currently a Medical Assistant thinking of going back to school for Nursing. Currently laid off at the end of May with a Medicaid company ( short 1 month of being there for 1 year). Three years ago, graduated with an Associates of Appied Science in Medical Assisting. I would like to get some feed back on what should my first steps be? What should I look for? Are there special loans or programs for going into nursing? Thank you
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    yantelfriend

    4 months ago

    2 comments

    I am currently a CNA. I will be taking my placement testing next week to enter into the pre-nursing course for RN at my local community college. The degree will be ADN and I was wondering if at the age of 39; I should persue a degree as BSN or just go for ADN. Is it really worth putting off becoming an RN sooner just to obtain a BSN degree. Anyone have any insight to this let me know. Thanks...
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    1gardeningangel

    4 months ago

    6 comments

    I have had my ADN since 1977. When I was encouraged to go for my BSN, my State position conveniently would NOT PAY for evening classes at Umass Boston. I figured the $ and would have made a whopping 25 CENTS an hour with my BSN,not worth the THOUSANDS I would 've PAID to get the BSN. Also I must tell you I agree that some of the WORST RN's I have ever worked with were MSN's, and I actually learned a LOT from LPN's, and experienced CNA's!!!! I think common sense is very uncommon, and it is THE PERSON not the initials behind their name!!!! No matter what we can all always LEARN in nursing stay humble, ask when you don't know something, you are a human after all!
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    seahope

    5 months ago

    4 comments

    I am earning my ADN at a community college with great accreditations. Our local university will allow ADN's who have earned their degrees in certain colleges to apply to their Master's programs after you have worked for 2 years as an ADN in a clinical environment. The Master's degree is earned concurrently with the BSN over an intense 2 yr period. My ultimate goal is FNP for a GP, and this seems like the fastest and best way to go since I am already mid 30s, and am eager to get to work. Check out the local colleges, and see what they offer and what is offered at the transfer institutions. They will send you the curriculum and grad plans for free.
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    luvsnsg

    5 months ago

    2 comments

    I have had my ADN (Diploma) in nursing since 1996, graduated at the age of 33, I have worked in Blood Collection Centers, Skilled Nursing and Rehab all in Supervisory Capacity. I have also worked as a staff nurse in acute care as well as a physicians clinic. I am currently working in skilled nursing/rehab as ADON and am loving it. My DON also has her ADN. I suppose it depends on the type of nursing your interested in as to your needs of furthering your career.
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    LouisianaChic

    6 months ago

    10 comments

    If you already have your PN license or certificate but want something much faster to finish the RN,try www.excelsoir.edu
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    dwiedmeyer

    6 months ago

    28 comments

    I don't think you have to have a bachelor's in nursingto go on to the master's degree in nursing and advance that way, as far as i know, one of my friends just graduated last year ADN and has a bachelor's in something other than nursing and she can go on to her master's as well.
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    lbirdis918

    6 months ago

    22 comments

    Does it have to be a BSN or do they just want to see a bachelor's degree? I have a bachelor's degree in public safety administration but am finishing up my ADN this May. This is a second career and my bachelor's degree worked out well with my previous job. Does my current bachelor's degree help me? I plan on getting my Master's degree but I don't want to have to pay for another bachelor's degree as well. I have been told that it is better to skip the BSN and go to MSN. Any ideas?
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    dwiedmeyer

    6 months ago

    28 comments

    I am an LPN and am in an LPN-RN Bridge Program and it will take me 15 month to finish the ADN. To Debrafloreslvn74, it doesn't take three years. I am going to be fifty years old by the time I graduate from this program, and am planning to go on to the BSN since my heart desire is to teach. It really depends on your future goals if you should go on to advanced nursing or not. I can imagine though that in the next twenty years or so , that it is gojng to be required to have a BSN, and they won' even offer the ADN anymore. Several of my class mates are even older than myself, I admire anybody who goes back to school in later life; that shows you that you are never too old to go back to school to better yourself.
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    vickielee1970

    6 months ago

    534 comments

    The article did a good job explaining why one would consider an advanced degree. I want my RN, ASN and then I want my BSN. I eventually would like to teach so a MSN is not out of the question. But first I want to be a Great Nurse because that is at the core of every goal I have. I have a note pinned to my bulletin board one of my clinical instructors wrote me on my paperwork telling me I will be a Wonderful Nurse. I want to always live up to that praise and expectation, regardless of the degrees I obtain.
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    Debrafloreslvn74

    6 months ago

    6 comments

    My girlfriend & I are Lvn's for 30+yrs, we just want to get our RN but not spend 3 yrs to get it. We haven't found any resources where we can do this, so we have unhappily decided we have to stay where we are.

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