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If You're Not a Nurse - Don't Call Yourself One!!!

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Posted 11 months ago

 

Ok, so I don't this sounds like a meanie post, but I am tired of CNAs calling themselves nurse to patients and family members. I'm an RN, and I would never call myself an NP, so CNAs should not call themselves RNs. I was visiting my dad in the hospital (nothing major - gallstones) and this CNA called herself a nurse, the nerve. I'm interested to hear what others have to say. Have you ever been in this sort of situation?

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Isn't calling yourself a nurse different than calling yourself an RN? Do they both bug you? Doesn't CNA stand for Certified Nursing Assistant? I think that qualifies as a nurse.

How should they introduce themselves? "Hi, I'm a CNA"?

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No, Katherine. Being a CNA does not qualify you to introduce yourself as a nurse. This is simply because they are not one. And, yes, they should introduce themselves as a CNA. There is no shame in being a CNA or equivalent, but misrepresentation by alluding that they are a licensed Nurse is completely inappropriate. When I was a tech in our ER going through nursing school, I introduced myself as a "tech". It is an honor to call oneself a Nurse and I did not deserve that honor until I earned it.

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All right, well thanks RNdude. You learn something new every day.

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I agree with RN dude, and I am a CNA becoming an RN. Calling myself a Nursing Assistant never bothered me. Nurses require more education. Would a paralegal ever walk into a deposition and introduce herself as an attorney? I think not.

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I'm a CNA too... I work in a nursing home, and I've found that most people ASSUME that I'm a Nurse... When I'm walking down the hall and someone wants something, they call out "Nurse!" Usually, I don't feel the need to correct them. But, I never call MYSELF a Nurse. For instance, if someone says "Nurse, Can I have a glass of water?" I say "yes" and get the water. I don't feel the need to say that I'm not a nurse. BUT... If someone were to say "Nurse, I'm having trouble breathing" or something like that, I wouldn't pretend to be a nurse and handle the situation myself. I wold tell them "I'm just the Aide, and I will go tell the nurse and have him come in right away." For the record, everytime we get a new resident or patient, I introduce myself as the CNA.

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I follow the same protocol. I think that most people when they are even just visiting a hospital and someone calls out, "Nurse!" they respond by either helping the patient or finding a nurse/lpn/cna, etc. Sometimes I find that patients are unaware of the difference between a CNA and a nurse. How do you usually explain it to a patient that usually isn't too familiar with the subject to begin with?

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You should ALWAYS differentiate who you are regardless of your profession in the medical field. People address me as "doctor" several times a day at the office and I always tell them immediately that I am a nurse practitioner. Patients often don't know the difference but you can better believe that they are very upset when they find out that a CNA has been telling them that they are the nurse. There is nothing wrong with being a nursing assistant. They should be proud of their contribution to the health care system. Without a great tech, my day would really be terrible.

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Hey I believe that you should correct your patient's and family member, when they assumed that you are a nurse. I always tell my patients who think that im a nurse. I tell them im on my way to becoming a nurse. I don't front honey! What you see is what you get, which is a dam good CNA.


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npssavelives and cutie - i'm glad to hear about the honesty. It just really gets on my nerves sometimes. Sometimes I hear about people impersonating nurses and I think well that happens so much. There should be a non-acronym term for CNAs and LPNs, don't you think? Anybody have any ideas?

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cuttie said:

Hey I believe that you should correct your patient's and family member, when they assumed that you are a nurse. I always tell my patients who think that im a nurse. I tell them im on my way to becoming a nurse. I don't front honey! What you see is what you get, which is a dam good CNA.

I don't feel that I'm lying or putting on any kind of front when I don't correct someone who has mistakenly called me nurse. When introducing myself to patients and family members, I always tell them that I'm a CNA or Nurse's Aide. I work in a subacute unit. When I'm on my own unit, I always enter the room at the beginning of my shift, introduce myself, and say that I'm an Aide. When it has happened that somone has assumed I'm a nurse because they call out "Nurse!" and I answer the call, I don't correct them because it isn't my unit, and the likelyhood of me seeing them again in the near future, or them even remembering or caring is very slim... I too am proud to be a damn good CNA, and I will be a Damn Good Nurse someday too. I don't misrepresent myself. I just feel that correcting someone to whom it probably doesn't matter is a waste of time.

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PittNurse said:

npssavelives and cutie - i'm glad to hear about the honesty. It just really gets on my nerves sometimes. Sometimes I hear about people impersonating nurses and I think well that happens so much. There should be a non-acronym term for CNAs and LPNs, don't you think? Anybody have any ideas?

II'm confused... Are you saying that an LPN should not be called a nurse?

As a CNA, I introduce myself at the beginning of each shift like this:
"Hi, I'm Laurie. I'm a CNA and I'll be your Aide tonight. If you need help with anything, let me know..."

I think telling someone that I'm an Aide, it's easier to understand my duties and responsibilities than it is if I use the term CNA.

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I agree with Butterfly, about correcting someone who yells out, "Nurse!'. If they just want a glass of water it is too time consuming to explain that I am the nurse aide because most of the residents are hard of hearing. To respond to someone who is calling the nurse is ok because we are still assesing what the patient/resident wants or needs. From there, we can determine whether they need help from the aide or if they need assistance from the RN/LPN. Its important to respect the fact that not everybody is healthcare savy and I think Butterfly sums it up pretty nicely. I am proud to be a CNA because when I become an RN, I can say that I understand and appreciate what the aides do. Some of the nurses at my job ask the impossible of us because they don't really understand how hard our job can be. Other nurses who got their start as an aide are more on the fair side. So RNs please try to give a break to the aides but if an aide is misrepresenting themselves, find out about your company policies reguarding this matter. There could be a future incident where valuable info is passed to the wrong person.

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Rated 0 | Posted 10 months ago

 

Angie_ri78, I'm certain that you will remember your roots when you become an RN. Over the years before becoming a Nurse I worked under many other titles...Nurse Assistant, corpsman, Emt, Nurse Tech...and I have always made it a priority to treat my paramedic and PCT teammates the way I always appreciated being treated. They should feel like everything you ask of them is a personal favor to you and, afterwards, they should receive thanks...regardless of how small a task. Unfortunately, I have seen Nurses who have forgotten their roots and, obviously, what it was like being a CNA or the like.

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RNdude - I think that most of the nurses who wouldn't be sympathetic to CNAs are those who never have been. Kind of like the doctors who aren't sympathetic to RNs. Obviously, not everybody is going to have the experience of being in the position of those under them on the food chain. People just need to be respectful.

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ButterflyWings00 said:

PittNurse said:

npssavelives and cutie - i'm glad to hear about the honesty. It just really gets on my nerves sometimes. Sometimes I hear about people impersonating nurses and I think well that happens so much. There should be a non-acronym term for CNAs and LPNs, don't you think? Anybody have any ideas?

II'm confused... Are you saying that an LPN should not be called a nurse?

As a CNA, I introduce myself at the beginning of each shift like this:
"Hi, I'm Laurie. I'm a CNA and I'll be your Aide tonight. If you need help with anything, let me know..."

I think telling someone that I'm an Aide, it's easier to understand my duties and responsibilities than it is if I use the term CNA.

Butterfly - I don't have any problem with calling an LPN a nurse. After all LPN stands for Licensed Practical Nurse, I just was thinking that maybe there should be more descriptive terms that refer to the tasks that they actually do. Not going to happen, right. I was just putting it out there.

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You know PITTNURSE the task they do. LPN do everything a RN does except IV pushes. I know when I read in my NCLEX, Registered nurses in the Hospital's do the intial assessment, and the LPN does the on going assessment. I read that LVN's can't administered medications in porticaths. Some RN's can't admistered medications or insert a central line without certification. You still call a RN a RN if she can't do a certain task, it is the same for the LPN. Certification!!!!!


I am a proud mother of three beautyful daughter. I currently live in Los Angeles California. I've worked as a heathecare provider for almost 10 years. I am curently in school to pursue my MSN in nursing, and wants to work as a pediactric nurse, in public health.

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Well, in all my time as a CNA, there's only been one time that I've seen an incident where the LPN on my floor had to call in an RN to do something that she was unable to do with her status as LPN... Only once. I have in my time, however, seen two different RN's make mistakes that the LPN needed to fix... Including an RN that mistakenly gave someone a suppository in the vagina... And belittled the resident saying it was all in her head, when she complained of vaginal burning. I've also seen many LPN's take over for an RN who had trouble with a certain task... To be honest, there are days that there's only one RN in the whole facility, and the floors are run, quite well, by the LPN's.. Infact the Suprevisor on my shift is an LPN.

I think belittling an LPN''s status as a nurse is much the same as belittling an NP, for the simple fact that an NP isn't quite a doctor... Each person, each position is what it is. All are worthwhile. All are worthy of respect, and each person should be proud of the status they have achieved.

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Rated 0 | Posted 10 months ago

 

ButterflyWings - Do you have any desire to be an NP at some point? Also, given your interest in how RNs treat CNAs and LPNs, how do you plan to treat them once you become one? What methods will you use?

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Hi to all. Over the last 38 years working as an LPN I introduce my self as (lowest paid nurse) LPN and this usually get a laugh and then opens up the conversation as to the different roles in nursing. Believe me I do consider myself a nurse but I also respect the difference in education and responsibility of being an RN. Working on a busy acute medical and palliative unit we frequently have brand new RN's who are nervous and unsure of many basic things. They will frequently seek out the LPN to ask what they feel is a stupid question because they don't want to look silly to their peers. I have seen dozens of new RN's grow and blossom on our ward and then go on with confidence to a speciality field. There are many ways we can help and encourage each other as we work together in nursing and bickering over who gets called Nurse is not helpful. Florence Nightingale did basic bedside nursing and guess what - she called herself a nurse.
Perhaps going back to distinctive uniforms would help the general public know -who is who.

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Rated 0 | Posted 10 months ago

 

I for one don't think there are NEARLY enough acronyms in the medical field. Perhaps we could come up with 15 tiers of responsibility, each getting it's own acroynm and a color coded scrub to go with it. No two will be called nurse mind you, that should take care of everything.

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As a male and a nurse, people often call me doctor. I correct them by saying, "I'm not a doctor, I'm a nurse, but can I help you?" I wouldn't pass myself off as a doctor and I don't think Nurse Aides and Techs should let people assume they are nurses. I do understand that everything has a time and place however and sometimes a correction is not in order.

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Rated 0 | Posted 10 months ago

 

I originally posed the question because somebody had clearly stepped over their limits and became way too arrogant about the issue. Like cuttie said,"don't front". This is all a process - know your place CNAs, LPNs, RNs. There are different roles/titles and each of us professionals should respect them. I never intended for people to take it as - don't anser when a patient calls, "nurse!"

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When a person says nurse, it could mean licensed practical nurse or registered nurse unless they specify. I really don't agree with a CNA calling themselves a nurse bcause they are a certified nursing assistant. Sometimes pts. get confused because there isn't any type of clothing-- like the old white uniforms-- to say hey there's a nurse, because everyone's wearing scrubs. Adrienne Poli LPN

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Katherine said:

Isn't calling yourself a nurse different than calling yourself an RN? Do they both bug you? Doesn't CNA stand for Certified Nursing Assistant? I think that qualifies as a nurse.

How should they introduce themselves? "Hi, I'm a CNA"?

Yes, you say "Hi I'm a CNA" PAs are assitants. They do not call themselves "dr"


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PittNurse said:

Ok, so I don't this sounds like a meanie post, but I am tired of CNAs calling themselves nurse to patients and family members. I'm an RN, and I would never call myself an NP, so CNAs should not call themselves RNs. I was visiting my dad in the hospital (nothing major - gallstones) and this CNA called herself a nurse, the nerve. I'm interested to hear what others have to say. Have you ever been in this sort of situation?

It bugs me to no end.


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Rated 0 | Posted 10 months ago

 

I agree with vsinger - just call yourself what you are. Acronyms are used more and more for almost everything. Patients ought to know exactly what your role is - if they don't know exactly you should explain what a CNA is. Who on this forum has ever been a CNA or an LPN and felt annoyed by this? Most of the CNAs and LPNs that I've met don't have a problems with this.

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Rated 0 | Posted 10 months ago

 

I started out as an LPN. My pet peeve was to hear another LPN say "I am just an LPN" or for a CNA to say "I am just a CNA" I now am an advanced practice nurse with script rights. I am often called "Dr" I correct them. I am proud to be a nurse, worked hard for it, and my other peeve is for someone with no license to call themsef a nurse.


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Rated 0 | Posted 10 months ago

 

I too am an LPN and I do consider myself a nurse. I am currently in the process of finishing my RN only for one reason, money. I have no desire to return to the hospital, and frankly that is the only place that makes a huge difference. My job will not change in anyway or shape, and I currently love what I do.( Correctional Nursing )
I do more and see more in one shift than I often did in months in long term care or the hospital!!
I think RN's that are intimidated by having LPN's and CNA's referred to as nurses have issues that have nothing to do with titles. We need to stick togerther, and frankly good CNA's and Med Techs will provide invaluable information and assistance, and I consider all nurses.

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I looked up the definition of a nurse in the dictionary, it was a webster's New Dictionary copywrited in 2005. There were two definitions. One definition, was a nurse was a girl or woman employed to take care of children. The second was, a person trained to take care of sick people. I know times have change now since these original definitions were revised, even under Registerd Nurse, It only quioted the Registered Nurse being a graduated trained nurse who is license to practice, that's the key word practice.''''' not the LPN. It said that a LPN is a specially trained person who is licensed( as by a state) to provide routine care for the sick person. It didn't have a definition for CNA, but we know that CNA's are certified by the state, not license to assist the nurse or LPN to provide care to the patient. So this answer's Pittnurse question. A Registered nurse can practice nursing, that's the differentiation.


I am a proud mother of three beautyful daughter. I currently live in Los Angeles California. I've worked as a heathecare provider for almost 10 years. I am curently in school to pursue my MSN in nursing, and wants to work as a pediactric nurse, in public health.

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