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How do you know if your patient is in withdrawl from drugs or ETOH?
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Posted 3 months ago
How do you know if your patient is your patient withdrawing for drugs or alcohol?
Does your facility have screening tools in place to assess for ETOH or drug withdrawal and if so what do you use?
Are you familiar with CIWA and COWA?
Ginny |
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| Posted 3 months ago
Every patient you have should be screened for drug and ETOH use/abuse. more than 1/3 of admissions to the ER and the hospital are a direct result of drug and ETOH abuse. You could save someone’s life. Watching someone go into full blown seizures and die from benzodiazepine or ETOH withdrawal is a horrible thing to witness.
Ginny |
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| Posted 3 months ago What's ETOH? |
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| Posted 3 months ago
alcohol
Ginny |
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| Posted 3 months ago It is so important to know the signs of W/D Karen Swift Jackson RN |
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| Posted 3 months ago at our rural hospital all psych patients are evaluated and cleared through medical PTA to the locked unit including a quan and qual for substance. It is also the PAO's (psych admit officer) duty to determine risk PEOPLE DIE FROM THIS |
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| Posted 3 months ago
Every patient of every age should be screened. Kids as young as 9 are using drugs and ETOH. ETOH and drug dependence is far too common in teens. Dependence, not abuse.
Ginny |
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| Posted 3 months ago Many of us here have seen people die horrible deaths, but none have struck me as so horrid as watching a man die from alcohol withdrawal, aka DT's. It was absolutely the worst thing I have ever seen. Deb
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| Posted 3 months ago You just do not want to see it. Ginny |
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| Posted 3 months ago Were you all taught the CAGE questions/ Have you ever tried to CUT down on your drinking? Do you ever feel GUILTY about your drinking? Have you ever needed an EYE OPENER the morning after drinking? Ginny |
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| Posted 3 months ago We have the CIWA scale. The problem is that they use that for drugs too. I didnt think you could use that for drugs. A large number of the patient we treat are admitted drug users. It is important that we know the S/S of withdraw for all drugs. I hate hearing that patient is being difficult but with just looking in the chart you see that they admitting use drugs. They are not difficult they are going though withdraws. We need to able to know the difference and start treating the problem. The reality is that they are not going to stop using and when they leave the hospital they will use agian, But we can certainly make the stay more comfortable for them and us. Knowledge is power. I am currently seeking info on the withdraw symptoms of illegal drugs so that I can start making there stay better for them and me. There is nothing worse then ignoring the underlining problem. I know that we cant stop them but we can offer the help and be more proactive in our assessments and knowledge. |
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| Posted 3 months ago I just added this to the library if you want to take a look at it: Training for Doctors Improves Screening for Risk-Taking in Teens Ginny |
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| Posted 3 months ago CIWA can be used for benzos as benzos act on the bodily systems the same as ETOH. That is why benzos are used for detox. For opiate withdrawl, they should be using COWA Ginny |
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| Posted 3 months ago p.s. you should also have a list of AA and NA meetings and a list of long-term treatment centers. Ginny |
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| Posted 3 months ago What about cocaine and heroine. That seems to be the drug of choose that the hopsital I work for. These patients dont play around they go for the hard stuff. |
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| Posted 3 months ago Heroin is an opiate so you would use the COWA. you would use this as well for Lortab, Oxyconton, Perxocet, etc. For cocaine and meth we do not have anything yet like the CIWA or the COWA that I am aware of. WIth meth I usually prescribe benzos to bring them down. Ginny |
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| Posted 3 months ago Heroin is an opiate so you would use the COWA. you would use this as well for Lortab, Oxyconton, Perxocet, etc. For cocaine and meth we do not have anything yet like the CIWA or the COWA that I am aware of. WIth meth I usually prescribe benzos to bring them down. Ginny |
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| Posted 3 months ago okay. I will just read that book and get informed. Thanks. I hope to see experiences with drug users to learn more. We can all learn from everyones experiences so please share. |
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| Posted 3 months ago Dawn: I am going to add that info here for everyone:
Here is one book for you
Nursing Care Of Clients with Substance Abuse by Eleanor J. Sullivan.
I read this cover-to-cover before I took my CARN certification exam. (certified addictions registered nurse) (I am kicking myself in the ass because I let this expire. I was the only CARN in the state of NV). It is not a very big text book and very easy to read.
Go here to get some nursing info on addictions and info on membership information on the International Nurses Society on Addictions.
A source of great information and free books is from the U.S. Department Of Health and Human Services Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration Center for Substance Abuse Treatment
Ginny |
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| Posted 3 months ago check out this article in the library: Is your patient in marijuana withdrawal?Karen Swift Jackson RN |
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| Posted 3 months ago Here is another one that you will find in the library that is pretty good. How dopamine drives cocaine cravingKaren Swift Jackson RN |
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| Posted 3 months ago And another one in the library: Heroin Addiction Fact Sheet Karen Swift Jackson RN |
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| Posted 3 months ago Our office has set up a policy for our OB patients with drug and alcohol, we monitor those closely who continue to take drugs while pregnant and know the consequences once the baby is delivered. We acutally have a pregnant patient come in last week, drunk, stumbling everywhere....she admitted to some alcohol abuse but never did we think she would come in that way. Taylor's Wife, Navy Wife Proud and Strong!
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| Posted 3 months ago thank goodness she came in drunk...maybe now she will get help for her and her baby A good man loves God and lives well....but
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| Posted 3 months ago thanks cd I have 10 years clean and sober but this is the first I have heard of intnsa and CARN. We have a large recovery community here and this info is valuable to me.
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| Posted 3 months ago dwolf: well with 10 years clean you know the program and will be a great support for your pts. Ginny |
