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Was Asked to Withdrawal from Program.
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Posted about 1 month ago Its been hard all my dreams for the past four years have had a stumbling block. This happened about a month ago. Long story short I was asked to withdrawal from school they said I have an involentary tremor, familial tremor. they said that can file for a reenstatement by Nov 1 for the Spring semester 2009
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| Posted about 1 month ago Here's a member who can use some help. Maybe another go-round from the start in "The Forum" will find someone here who can offer some useful advice, a remedy, or a referral. |
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| Posted about 1 month ago I am a little confused? Why would a tremor cause you to have to withdraw? I know of 2 excellent nurses with a tremor. As a matter of fact I am very good at starting my ivs but they are hands down awesome. They would be the first people I asked if I could not start on- because I know they almost never miss. They are iv therapy worthy. It used to crack me up to watch them start their ivs because I never would have figured they could do it with all the tremors. |
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| Posted about 1 month ago Isn't this discrimination? At least I certainly think it is. How severe is the tremor? Has this caused you difficulties in performing certain tasks? Deb
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| Posted about 1 month ago hey dmazement I'm with you. It sure sounds like discrimination. I'm sure you like me have seen many nurses with disabilities who have fulfilling careers. I would ask if they have a genuine medical issue here..Has there been an incident that caused them to think the person could not fulfill the task of nursing ? And if there has what did they do to try to resolve the problem. I hope the poster does not let this go and seeks assistance. If he is eligble to be reinstated in the fall of 2009 what makes him ineligable now? |
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| Posted about 1 month ago Geez...............I was in school with a girl who had spinal bifida and she was amazing My daughter in law was taken out of qualifications for nursing school because she has a history of seizures. Are they using that as an excuse for disqualification because you are unable to perform certain procedures? Is that legal? We only have one heart, take care of it! Angie |
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| Posted about 1 month ago Hi. Its been a little hard and I have had this all my life. I recall I when I was with my advisor she said that I am shaking and what it wrong. The director said to me when I am taking a quiz she can see me tremor, there are times I do not know I am doing it and there are times I do. They said you have to withdrawl because jepdorizing patient care. I begged to differ but they had all the cards. Most of my life have always remarked that I was...they nick named me shakey jake. There was not much recourse I could have taken. I am taking some beta blocker (Propanolol) now they are helping. I was afraid of some of the side effects other than being sometimes really tried that is about it. I am going to file a reinstatement in about a few weeks. I am not sure I think gave the impression of bad mojo. Its kind of hard to explain I am single, do not have a girlfriend, I do not have a job. Hopefully that one will be fixed in a few days. I do not think I have nothing in common other than being in the program. I do not know if there's anyone who has experienced this, another thing I have to learn how to keep my eyes to myself. I really felt at a loss I have wanted to do this for a while.... I need to learn control my radar. Being that there was 41 women and five men. That got a little overwelming at times. I know we are all people. I think got mixed up its was easy to think I am lonely and I am going to college find some friends there were some that we hit it off and could be good people to connect with. This is going to be part of my letter too. I am going to try to say something like, I understand going into a profession which is 95% female and I have to respect them for who they are as coworkers. There was a lot of things i have known as a CNA and I have done quite a bit. I think when you get in there they seen to think you knowing nothing about the nursing profession and its our job to teach you to a point where we do not care about your experience or knowledge. I do want to go back and I ll. |
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| Posted about 1 month ago lunarcaustic says ...
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| Posted about 1 month ago I'm not understanding why a facial tremor would disqualify you from nursing school. If anything, it would make you more aware of the patient's plight. And if they disqualified you now, what difference would there be in 2009? Perhaps you could have your doctor write a letter stating the tremors would not affect your job performance. I have seen other "handicapped" nurses who performed their duties as well as anyone. I agree with dmazement-there's something not right here. Don't give up. Keep pursuing your dream. |
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| Posted about 1 month ago Its not a facial tremor its a familal tremor. now I see what you are seeing because I made a typo. One the great things about firefox is if you type in something the address box, whatever they call it of a web browser its searches for it. I would like to find some chinesse medical doc that can help me out.. http://tinyurl.com/familial-tremor |
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| Posted about 1 month ago I still don't think they are holding all the cards. If your grades were good and your clinical skills were good how can they make you withdraw for a tremor? I would talk to someone about that. Like I said I know many good nurses with tremors- it hasn't stopped them from being good nurses. Esp because that is their life they have compensated for it. I would file a grievance. |
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| Posted about 1 month ago
I really kind of hate what they did. But its October and its almost mid-semester, I am not sure if I can file a grievance. I am not really much into tthe matrix. But if I want to go to school and have that RN at the back of my name, need to do what i have to do. I do not think the nursing profession of the school is not like this. thanks for the good mojo.
Joe
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| Posted about 1 month ago I work in a hospital right now with a nurse who has a pretty bad tremor. she does everything the other nurses do just fine. There should be something you can do. Good luck A good man loves God and lives well....but
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| Posted about 1 month ago It kind of sucks the driector, said to me during the lab, can we talk to see how you are doing, I asked her what she wanted to talk about..she blew me off. Then I came in the next day said I should withdrawl because my tremor. I said to someone who was fat that they had good blood pressure, I know that i should have not said that to a patient, she was not a patient was someone for some reason who could not lose her baby weight. I think we should have a forum what said, what are we affraid to offend someone. I was a CNA at a long term hospital and some the patients were nasty, if someone calls her fat she should take it whole hardly I think if this was said maybe she ought to try to do more about it |
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| Posted about 1 month ago 80229duck says ...
Lawsy We only have one heart, take care of it! Angie |
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| Posted about 1 month ago I'd like to know how long you have been in Nursing school? How much time and money have you invested? We should ask LawyerRN for his opinion. I'm going to message him. |
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| Posted about 1 month ago angienwgeorgia says ...
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| Posted about 1 month ago smoxignal says ...
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| Posted about 1 month ago Lawsy Do I understand you to say that you told the patient that she was fat? Hi. What happened we were in our first lab of the semester we were learning two-step blood pressures. I was the only guy in our learning circle. I took the pressures of the women next to me. i did not say that she was fat, said that you have a good blood pressure for being whom you are. I think you have to know that if you are overweight someone will assume you have a high BP. I am sure she know that she big. People said to me I am skinny all my life being that as it may. I assumed that someone her size would have hypertension. But we are supposed to treat the people we're doing the blood pressures on as patients nt that she was fat? After I found out that they wanted me to withdraw I asked who I offended they said I said this to this person (whom I forgot). Yeah it was my bad that I said what I said. And when I get back Ill have to not say a lot and Ill do that.
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| Posted about 1 month ago First, is the school a governmental entity (State or County college) or government funded? If so, file a complaint under the Americans with Disabilities Act with the Dept. of Justice (you have 180 days). Second, you shouldn't have withdrawn. Let them throw you out. Then you would have some sort of appeal rights. As it is you may be able to do so now - maybe the Board of Governors of the school? If not, then apply for reinstatement. If they don't reinstate you, appeal! Get disability advocacy groups involved. Your County or State Social Services agency may have a list of such groups. Contact your State or County Bar Association - they may help you find a lawyer who will help for free if you can't afford one. Maybe your state has a Public Advocate who could help. Let the school know you are willing to make waves! They will probably want to avoid legal trouble (but be respectful and professional). True story: In my nursing school class there were three men - me and one other who was also age 40. They instructors harassed us both, but we stood up to them. We graduated number 1 and 2 in the class. The third guy they just didn't like at all. They harassed him too, and on his final project he needed a grade of, say, 82 to stay in. They gave him an 81. He and I let them know we would be glad to take them to court if need be. They gave up and let him graduate. In other words, always fight back! Good luck! |
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| Posted about 1 month ago all I said was 'Lawsy' We only have one heart, take care of it! Angie |
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| Posted about 1 month ago LawyerRN, I have spend a lot of time getting my pre-reques I am not going to give that up. I could find some issue and maybe try to appeal to some board |
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| Posted about 1 month ago Look, dont let trivial issues rob you of your dreams. My advice is if you have already withdrawn, keep up with getting all your core classes for a higher degree. As far as the debt goes, alot of us are in debt! Take problems one at a time and dont get overwhelmed. When more experienced cna's harrass you.............stick your chin up and ask him/her for advice on how to improve, and ask nicely. No one is perfect and when you change jobs, there is always alot to learn. We only have one heart, take care of it! Angie |
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| Posted about 1 month ago angie God blessed you with a lot of beauty and a lot of beautiful attributes. thanks I have to say if you have someone you must be an encouraging person to them with a spirit like that anyone would be blessed to have you as a friend. I have all my classes that I need. I just need to find a job something of the sort. I am going to do what I need to do more toward my goals |
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| Posted about 1 month ago I have a very good friend (who also is an RN like me), who has familiar tremors. She takes inderal for it. Also, she stopped drinking caffeine, which really helped her. She is a great nurse, and much better at IV's tham I am. Did the school give you a written reason as to why they wanted you to withdraw? It seems to me that there is more than meets the eye in this situation. Anyway, if you have not already done so, I suggest (like some others), that you seek legal advice. You mentioned in one of your posts that you were short of cash. Try legal aid, they have reduced rates and might be able to help. Best of luck! |
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| Posted about 1 month ago Duck...........my husband is an HR mgr for a big manufacturing company, teaches business classes in an MBA program. One thing he has always preached to me is 'being on a job for a long time is as important as an education". Now, I have differed with him because of money. Example: I've left a job for a fat sign on bonus............finished the 1yr contract and then looked for another fat sign on bonus. As an RN and single parent, the cash was essential, but as we get older, need to look at savings and 401k, retirement and crap like that. So having tenure on a job is very important and also when you get evals done on the job, xerox it <if its a great one> so the prospective employer can see exactly what they thought of your work performance and what your strong points were. It might be worth it to take a 'crap job' job for at least a year but I found that keeping a notebook with all of my evals made the interviewers eyes open wide up. When you are filling out job applications, be sure to take your time filling it out and watch your spelling and grammar. On the job as a nurse, if we misspell drugs it coulld look like a med error and that would be a possible legal problem for you and the facility...........it's worth it to take your time on these things that might seem stupid. Online, I misspell alot, and a couple of keys on my computer stick...........but I'm not looking for a job. This might not help at all but good luck to you. We only have one heart, take care of it! Angie |
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| Posted about 1 month ago angienwgeorgia says ...
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| Posted 29 days ago Because I am not a nurse, I can't say much....except I am a person that understands people. It seems apparent that you are passionate about pursuing your goal, and I commend you for that. I am a non-traditional student to say the least, and will be going into the ADN program as soon as I am accepted. I am currently working on the prereqs. When you mentioned what you said to the person about having good blood pressure despite her condition (paraphrased), I had to think of Beaver from the old "Leave It To Beaver" tv series. One time Beaver told someone, as I recall, "gee, you sure don't sweat much for a fat lady." Though he had the best of intentions, it would have been fine if he stopped short of calling her fat. The only advise I would give you is to be very aware until you refine your communication skills. Please don't misinterpret this as a put down. I am on your side. It just seems to me that whoever is evaluating your performance, probably factored the dialog error into her decision to ask you to leave. Don't give them ammunition. Keep on keeping on, you have the desire. Scott |
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| Posted 18 days ago I think I was kind of like the Bev in saying that to the woman who I was taking the pressure from |
