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I believe that one's individual beliefs are so vital to life, however in this age of diversity, it is challenging to teach students to support some beliefs they don't agree with. We have a discussion on how one must support but that does not mean one agrees with the client's viewpoint. How do you approach diversity and differing spiritual views in your practice?

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in the country i came from we don't agree with euthanasia or getting a person out of ventilator or giving medications like morpine sulfate around the clock------- that was almost 15 years ago. most people could not afford the care that we can offer to the residents as well as their families. plus the belief that only God has the right to take lives since He is the Only One who gave it. But now, that i am working in a long term facility and some of them are no code, comfort care or in hospice all i can do is to make them comfortable physically and tried to talk to them about Christ. I am still hesitating to give narcotics when they are alert and not even restless or in pain. Regarding those mechanical devices that is believed to at least will lenghten somebody's life, i am for it in some extent. i am against it when the person is already vegetable. to make things easier for my residents and their family, i tried to know what belief they have, listen to them with open mind, pray with them and just being with them.

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Good call christianwoman, I agree with you. I would like to add one thing, for you that is. When a pt. is on life support, and Dr. and Nurse are all doing what they can to prolong life, concider this. Their talents and skills and even their intuition are God given. No matter what we do as mortals will not stop God from claiming one of His own in His own good time. I hope this helps you to understand that when your pt. no longer has hope of recovering and that death is iminent, the holistic path of nursing should lead you to minister to the family. Be well and know that only a good nurse is concerned with such thoughtful questions.

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We are suppose to use our God given ability for people to know and accept Christ. I am saddened people use their talents and claim that it is in their own power. We cannot change the past nor predict the future but we Can always count on Christ. i just hope that inspite of differences, we will continue to treat others fairly although some of them get into our nerves.

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At that point all you can do is smile, and pray for them. What does bother me are those people that adamantly denie the existance of God. Boy are they going to be surprised.

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Remember you cannot make peace happen, you have to get out of Peace's way and let it happen.

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yup that is right. another one that i observed is that when a person is very idealistic (like me) or (perfectionist) it will be so hard to understand others. our personalities, beliefs or culture have really a great part in treating others fairly and with respect. in fact somebody told me that you don't have to love everybody but try to respect each other and pray for those that we can't stand at all. respecting other family members decision regarding the chosen way of caring for their love ones is hard to understand but we have to respect their decisions and not to argue with it. i'll follow orders because i am subordinate but if it is against God's will-----------NO WAY!!!!!

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So if it your opinion that something is against God's will then you won't support it? Even if it is against your hospital's policy or against the wishes of the family? What would be an example christianwoman or lgr3418?

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I'm not trying to challenge you (well, not much anyways, and in a friendly way) but to lead the discussion back to the original question which was how do you support beliefs you don't agree with?

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Thanks Jendorphins, a very good question. Gotta think on that some more. I have started to answer 3 times and each time I do I come off sounding pious and sanctimonious. I may not support them, but I do NOT challange them. I am a pluralist of sorts. I think we all have a piece of the puzzle, The Catholics, Baptists, Jews, Muslims, Buddists. And God will one day say, just like your Dad did when you were a kid. "Say let's put this puzzle together" That is Omnicients.
I still come off pious don't I. Sorry.

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And what would happen if you were to find out that you are wrong and the Muslims are right? You must also understand that Buddhism is not a religion. Our job is to SUPPORT our patients. Our beliefs do not matter, the patients’ beliefs is what is important.


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I know our job is to support the patient but I have to say that our beliefs do matter. That is what should govern our morals, values, and attitudes in life and nursing. That is where you can make those hard ethical dilemma decisions; from your beliefs. Nurses only have to show nonjudgemental behaviors towards our patients to care for and suport them. Just my thought.

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Cd and Ctrum, if I may combine both your responses. I think you both nailed it. Thanks. The patient is priority.

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Okay, but then my concern would be if your ethical dillema (based on your beliefs) intersects poorly with something about your patient (not necessarily religious) like they have a same-sex partner--do you treat them as family? Your patient views him/her as family, but that conflicts with your beliefs. What to do?

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If you find your self in a conflict with your beliefs and feel it will interfere with patient care, you trade patients with another provider. We have to do this often at the jail. Think child molesting sort of guys.


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Diversity to me means; freedom of speech, and in the right for a person to worship as he or she chooses. To have the liberty to celebrate the differences in cultures, differing political viewpoints, and differing tastes in food, art, music. This all plays an impotant role in the patient's homeostasis, that is one of the reasons patient's heal faster at home than in the hospital.

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I agree with that al_chamizo. We get back to the basics NSG101, it's all about the patients.

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If i were to care for a homosexual patient, that wouldn't make it harder to care for that person or his/her family. Just like if someone was of another religion. They are not asking me to go against my beliefs, they are asking for my help. And that is what i would give them..help and healing. We are not to have judgement as nurses and for me as a Catholic. I wouldn't try to change what they believe or their lifestlye because it does not go with mine, I would educate them on their particular needs and so forth so they get better. Like ljr3418 said, it's all about the patient.

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I do not have to agree with your values or core beliefs to render culturally sensitive care. I only have to be willing to learn about and understand what you choose to share about those values or beliefs and treat you with the respect and consideration I know you are entitled to as another HUMAN BEING.

I have my own deeply held religious and cultural values. Understanding yours does not diminish mine. Unfortunately too many people think that to understand is to condone. It is not my job to judge my patients or my friends; something I am very thankful for.

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dealing with different beliefs, culture on the other hand, helped me also to explore my own self. i have to remind myself not to judge somebody but to learn to respect them, without giving up the belief and values that i have. i am being reminded that even in our own family there are a lot of differences. If i don't feel comfortable working with somebody, i inform the boss. if i can't handle one resident and about to explode, i call somebody. i keep on reminding myself that being different is the reason we are so unique. If i have to give a certain medication, and i think it is not appropriate, i call the doctor's attention most of the time they will listen to suggestions anyway.

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I have always believed we are not nurses to judge people. We are professionals and being professional means you step back and away, in order to give the best of yourself. We are there to care for and nurture, both the patients and their families, regardless of race, culture, religion, sexual orientation. Almost every country in this world is now multi-cultural. Air travel, world wide companies have made this a fact of life. I may not agree with things, but I'm not there to agree, I'm there to care.


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gailp said:

I believe that one's individual beliefs are so vital to life, however in this age of diversity, it is challenging to teach students to support some beliefs they don't agree with. We have a discussion on how one must support but that does not mean one agrees with the client's viewpoint. How do you approach diversity and differing spiritual views in your practice?

Well i can say the following, god gave every human being the ability to taste, feel and think and make decissions, i fully understand what you mean but to support someone to believe in a being that they don`t believe in is moreless like talking to a brickwall, if you honor and worship god with all your heart mind and soul, they will see changes in you and that will make them wonder why everything is going so right for you, your happy, your joyful, your work and studies are going well, and when they ask the question how come? than you have the chance to tell how you are reaping your fruits.they will open their hearts. Do good and good will follow and dominion of all thigs will be given to you and no pain will be added with it.

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jendorphins said:

I'm not trying to challenge you (well, not much anyways, and in a friendly way) but to lead the discussion back to the original question which was how do you support beliefs you don't agree with?

If i can make the following comment,You simply don`t but choose your words wise and careful not to stir up an conflict, because no one can force you to believe in something you don`t belief in. show respect for their beliefs to keep the situation healty, but if you know it`s not right for you stay clear, look at the world today the things humans are doing in the name of religeon.know that Bad assosiation spoils useful habits.